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Make a Living Writing Has a New Partner: Here’s Why You Benefit

Carol Tice | 63 Comments

If you’ve sensed the winds of change blowing here at Make a Living Writing, you’ve got good instincts. Maybe our blog’s new footer clued you in.

After more than a dozen years building this blog and my Freelance Writers Den community on my own, I’ve taken on a great new partner: Chandler Bolt of the selfpublishing.com platform.

How and why did this happen? Why this specific partner, and why now?

Writers often ask me to share my journey . . . so here goes. Here’s the story of how this blog was founded and grew, why I decided to make this change — and why I think it’s going to rock your world.

A passion project is born

In 2008, I was just another freelance writer, hustling to make a living. Writing about business finance, insurance, and other glamorous topics.

Then came the Great Recession. I was busy ramping my business to six figures despite the melting economy, but I kept hearing from other writers who were starving as they slaved for content mills. This made me insanely angry. I wanted writers to know how to find good pay and stop being exploited.

Next thing I knew, I was freelancing by day, tucking in my then-preschoolers promptly at 7:45 pm, running up to my bedroom office, and writing this blog until midnight. Six nights a week, for 2.5 years. Didn’t see a play, watch a TV show, go to a dinner party, nuthin’.

I built a small audience. Eventually, I even learned how to get them on an email list. #n00b

Almost accidentally, I had created an online business.

This crazy schedule continued until 2010, when my blog got discovered by thought leaders, hit some top 10 lists, grew to over 1,000 subscribers, and became a real business. One that could help a lot of writers to earn a good living, and could offer them useful e-books, courses, and community, too.

All it took was one “You helped me quit my job and live my dream life” email from a reader, and I was hooked.

Why I kept freelancing

Every coach faces a dilemma: Whether to quit doing the thing they’re advising on and exclusively coach, or to keep doing that thing.

I always wanted to continue with freelance writing. I didn’t start my blog because I hated the freelance hustle — I always loved it.

If I stopped freelancing, I also worried that I’d quickly become out of touch with the realities of the freelance marketplace. And my advice would be less valuable.

So I kept freelancing. Yes, it was nuts. But it was the only way that made sense to me.

My crazy juggling act from 2010-2021 was: mom of three, online business owner with a staff of 10 part-timers, and freelance writer. I ran on 6 hours of sleep and worked 6 days a week.

Growing a blog-based business along with freelancing allowed me to be home with my kids and flexible about what hours I worked. It also let me provide a lifestyle for my kids that I did not experience growing up in Van Nuys, California.

But those great, mostly local “vacations” almost always included a laptop.

Did I miss a lot of hang time with my kids? Yes. Do I have regrets about that? Definitely. But again, I didn’t see a better way at the time. And you may know my home life wasn’t easy.

Kids weren’t great travelers. In 10 years, we moved once, 10 miles away, and it was a nightmare. My husband and I went on one international trip, without them. I felt a little like George Bailey, who never gets out of Bedford Falls.

While I was coaching location-independent, remote-work writers living and traveling everywhere, I was pretty stuck. Between family issues and the level of responsibility I felt to my readers and especially to Den members, it was hard to truly get away.

It was like I was going along writing and minding my own business, but I suddenly found myself holding the tail of a rocket shooting up into the sky.

It was exhilarating, it was unexpected, it was amazing, and it was often scary — Would I let people down? Writers, my team, my family? Would I earn enough this month to pay payroll and feed my family? No matter how well a course sold or how big Den membership grew, the worries were hard to outrun.

Always, there were a million things I should be doing, reading, people I should be meeting, to keep the business growing. To keep up with social media changes and tech advances.

But a lot of the time, all I could do was hang on for dear life and hope the rocket kept flying.

Work/life out of balance and hitting my limit

By 2012, my husband developed health issues and I made a decision to have him quit his job. I’d earn all the money. So he could heal. (Which he did, thankfully.)

If I had more work hours, I thought I could build this blog up. And I wanted my husband to live. Both worked out well.

On the plus side, I would help many writers (nearly 1 million read this blog a year now). For many years, I loved every minute of it.

Until I didn’t.

Over the past couple years, I started to feel tired and overwhelmed. I didn’t wake up excited to race to my laptop and see who wanted to tell me how I’d changed their life.

It was hard to admit that this amazing online world I’d created was  beginning to feel more like a monster and less of a fun carnival ride.

When I started in 2008, blogging about freelance writing was fairly new. By 2020, the competition was a lot stiffer. Winning the internet got more complicated. As a non-techie person, I felt increasingly out of my element.

At one point I spent a small fortune on an outside SEO team, with little result. I felt like I didn’t really know how to fix this. We had incredible content, but others with B.S. posts on those same topics ranked better. That ate at me.

There was another factor, too: A lot of online-biz people develop a pretty thick skin for all the hard-luck stories you get, once you become a known entity online. But I never did.

It hurt to open my email and hear from starving people oceans away, begging me to hire them. To give them clients. To show them how to earn from writing in English, even if they were barely literate in it.

It aches to know that I cannot help everyone.

A decade-plus on, content mills are still a thing. Exploitation still happens. There’s more education still to be done.

But I felt weary from the fight — like someone else needed to pick up this torch, who would have the energy to fight on.

Built to sell

You may notice this blog isn’t named caroltice.com (that’s my writer site). Because I’d covered startups for decades as a reporter, I knew that I never wanted to be my brand. I wanted to build something that could eventually be sold.

I didn’t want to work forever! Hopefully you don’t, either. From early on, I wanted to create a resource that could keep helping writers without my working 24/7 to keep it going.

If you’re curious how you know it’s near time to sell a business that you’ve loved almost like a fourth child, I have a metric for you: It’s when people ask if they can buy it.

My first serious inquiry came back in 2017. It was a real discovery process. Do you do monthly profit-and-loss statements on your business? I never had.

At the time, I used the opportunity to learn what buyers look for. What I’d need to do to find a good buyer. Then, I started doing those things. In case the moment came when I wanted to sell.

To build the business up, I did $15,000 of business consulting. Took that advice and grew 20% bigger. Got to be the size where selling made more sense.

Then, like it does, life changed. And one day, I thought this blog would definitely be better off with someone else in charge.

Through the COVID looking glass

In early 2020, I was a mom of two high schoolers, firmly rooted to a busy life in Seattle. We were out every night of the week, seeing friends, dancing, eating at great restaurants, at our synagogue 3-4 times a week, with a kid in religious school.

In March 2020, the schools and houses of worship closed, and that life vanished. You know that story.

Fifteen months later, we graduated our last child. We still could barely socialize. Services are still not in person, here in the West.

We were in a completely new, empty-nest phase of our lives, like it or not. COVID isolation gave me the chance to reflect and realize that my work life needed to change.

I had taught what I know, from 25 years of freelance writing. More than a dozen e-books, ten different courses in the Den. We’d even built a self-study version of my Den 2X Income Accelerator coaching program that successfully doubled writers’ income, without my having to hold their hand every day.

It was time to gear down and enjoy life more — because, who knows how long any of us have, these days?

This time, when buyers came calling, I was ready to listen.

To everything, a season

I recently learned in my Talmud study that the sages believed every life has 42 phases.  (Fans of the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy will also know 42 as the answer to life, the universe and everything.)

Wow, that’s a lot of phases. It made me realize I was really at the end of one, whether I liked it or not. In so many ways.

Running an online business full-time wasn’t for me any more.

I’d reached a point where it was better for both my readers and me if I moved on to my next phase. Time to stop knocking myself out trying to do things I wasn’t great at, and let a better-qualified team have at it.

Time to follow where my heart is pulling me — back into full-time freelance writing. I’m already fully booked for the rest of the year as a book ghostwriter, and loving it.

So I started taking seriously the people who approached me about brokering or buying or investing in my sites. Finding a new partner during COVID isn’t something I’d necessarily recommend, but it was what I needed to do. And I think it’s turned out for the best.

Freelancing for me means less responsibility to hundreds of thousands of writers. I feel free to travel, recharge, reflect and figure out my next move. I think that will only benefit all of you — let me explain how.

What’s in it for you!

I know — you’re wondering what might change for you, as a reader of this blog or a member of Freelance Writers Den. The short answer is: If anything, it’ll be changed for the better.

Why do I think selfpublishing.com is the best possible partner I could have found for Make a Living Writing and the Den? Let me count the ways:

Deeper resources

It’s is a bigger organization than little ol’ TiceWrites LLC. Like, over 10X bigger.

That means more people on deck and deeper pockets to invest more in great content and courses, as well as the tech savviness to keep these sites state-of-the-art.

If you’ve never run a big blog, it’s like painting a battleship on the back-end — a never-ending series of updates and better tools to implement to stay on good terms with Google.

They’re pros at all that, and I honestly am not. That’s why I believe this blog is set to reach and help more writers than ever.

Keeping our team

If you’re wondering if any of the people behind the scenes here have been axed over this, the answer is nearly none. We have a new blog editor in Jeremy Anderberg, who’s just been hired to oversee all selfpublishing.com platform of sites, which includes The Write Life, The Book Designer, and Self-Publishing School. It’s a comprehensive family of blogs that will take from newbie writer to published author (or whatever your ultimate goal/dream might be).

Jeremy brings along his own rolodex of top-notch guest posters. (And if you’re interested in writing for any of those sites, email him at jeremy@self-publishingschool.com.)

Our longtime editor, Evan Jensen, is still helping him out a bit.

CEO Chandler Bolt has stressed that he wants us all to keep doing what we’re doing, because we know freelance writers’ needs. But now, our team has access to a larger team’s brainpower, as well as their experience crafting courses and connecting with writers. I think that’s going to be a dynamite combo.

Full-time focus

All SP.com does is develop courses, build community, hold events, and help writers. I think you’ll all benefit from that, versus my trying to keep a freelance career afloat on the side while also helping you all.

Young blood

Running an online business is a game for the young. There, I’ve said it.

As the years have passed, I’ve come to see this ever more. It’s for people who can hop on a Facebook live or make a YouTube video without needing hours of makeup and hair work to get presentable (cough). And who are full of energy to stay up ’round the clock thinking of how to keep leveling up what they deliver.

I started my blog 13 years ago, when I was closing in on 50. My birthday is this weekend. You do the math.

Meanwhile, Chandler isn’t even 30 years old (!!), and has already built an online empire. He’s got a young team backing him up, too, and I think they’ve got the energy and smarts to make this blog and the Den even more useful to you.

This isn’t goodbye

If you’re wondering if this is a farewell post from me, it’s not. I refer to SP.com as a partner for good reason. The first thing Chandler asked me was: “What do you love doing here? Because we want you to keep doing those parts — long term.”

So while Jeremy and the rest of the team takes over the day-to-day tasks that made me pull my hair in handfuls, I’m freed up to focus on the things I’m good at:

  • Still writing blog posts? Check. You can expect my byline to keep showing up here.
  • Serving as education director for Freelance Writers Den, making sure we recruit awesome presenters, continuing to create and deliver the courses writers need to earn well today.
  • Coaching mid-career writers through my Freelance Writers Den 2X Income Accelerator Grads group. Love-love-love helping writers double their income! (And also, perhaps having more bandwidth to coach newbies and offer Den members more 1:1 time.)
  • Consulting with SP.com on best ways to deliver more value and help even more writers launch and grow a lucrative, home-based freelance writing business.

As I write this, I’m just off a paddleboard on a private lake in Fort Collins, Colo. We’re traveling in an RV, beginning our search for where we want to eventually retire.

I’m refueling, recharging, and getting more ideas on how to help you earn more as a writer — now that I’m fully living the lifestyle I’ve been enabling for other writers, all these years.

I’m excited to see this new phase unfold, and to be along for the ride. Are we getting it right? I’m counting on you to let us know.

Got questions about what’s next for Make a Living Writing and Freelance Writers Den? Let’s chat in the comments.

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63 comments on “Make a Living Writing Has a New Partner: Here’s Why You Benefit

  1. Kathy A Johnson on

    I’m so thrilled for you, Carol. I’ve benefitted from this site and the Den for years, and I really, truly hope this next stage of your life is everything you want and need it to be. I’m slightly familiar with and respect Chandler Bolt and his organization , and look forward to seeing what this partnership brings!

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  2. Nick Krewen on

    Carol,

    I just wanted to thank you on behalf of the tens of thousands you have unselfishly helped through Freelance Writers Den, including myself, wish you nothing but the best. You’ve certainly earned whatever decision or respite you’re pursuing, and here’s hoping that the work/life balance you seek is as generous to you as you have been to us.

    If you need an endorsement or a testimonial, I’m happy to provide one.

    Best,

    Nick Krewen

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  3. Jennifer on

    Hi Carol

    Heartiest congratulations on your transition. And wish you a very Happy & Blessed Birthday! I believe this is the best birthday gift you gave yourself in many years.:-)

    I have not imagined that even you struggle with work-life balance. This change will certainly be welcome for you, and I hope we, your followers, continue to benefit from your sincere and generous efforts at a pace that’s manageable for you.

    Wishing you all the best, and many happy returns of the day every day!

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  4. Star Lawrence on

    Carol, this is such a great rundown…You and I have glanced off each other over the decades..I had two blogs of 13 yrs each…I collapsed them for two different reasons… Now, in so-called retirement, which is actually genteel poverty, LOL, I am back to my passion–screenwriting and on a small scale producting of cartoons… Yes, life has phases…I used to run an employment mission at my church in DC, and we told the attendees that people born then would have seven careers–not just jobs, careers. I think it’s like cats having nine lives… I wish you the best in your reincarnation… Cheers, Star

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    • Carol Tice on

      Thanks Star! And best wishes on the screenwriting.

      It’s been kind of an emotional week, with so many people checking in with me who I’ve helped over the decade-plus of my crazy ‘more than a hobby’ mission of helping writers earn well. They all seem to think I deserve to gear down and enjoy life more. Why didn’t I?

      Maybe because now, I have to admit that my career is going into likely a final phase. Done working? That’s crazy talk!

      It’s been a year — Covid, graduating both teens and seeing them move out… and all of a sudden I’m in a whole different world.

      And that world is so full of uncertainty, it’s like who knows what will happen next? A pandemic, flooded subways, 106 in Seattle. We all need to pull together and start making a world where people care about each other and the planet again. Probably my next act lies somewhere in there.

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  5. Zoe Zuniga on

    So happy for you Carol! Glad that you finally have time to travel and breathe and still get to do lots of writing!.

    Great choice teaming up with SP. I like the way the site is looking. I have to admit I was skeptical when I first discovered the Writer’s Den a few years ago seeing the “homemade” look of the tech.

    I ended up following some shiny newcomers’ freelance writing sites and courses instead and wasted time following bad advice. Now I wish I had gone with Writer’s Den first because you have so much wisdom and great content for budding freelance writers like me.

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    • Carol Tice on

      Hi Zoe —

      That’s such a telling story. I think many people who run online platforms came out of marketing and tech. And I came out of neither! So that was always a struggle.

      Happy to have a real pro tech and SEO team behind the wheel now, and I just get to put bootcamps together and support my 2X Grads, the BEST networking group for writers I’ve ever seen. And write for my clients! It’s been a major adjustment. On Sundays, I’m still like… so I really don’t have to work today? I just work 5 days a week like other people?

      But I’m starting to love it. I really needed more downtime. And now I’m out paddleboarding, biking… and thinking about what’s next.

      Glad you came to end up in the Den, where you can use our ridiculous treasure-trove of resources!

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      • Zoe Zuniga on

        So glad you are unwinding after the PTSD of running a million different parts of your business on your own! I am really enjoying the Den, going through the beginner courses. I was using mostly job boards and got a few decent gigs over the past couple of years. but they dried up of course, and then used UpWork for a little while but erased my membership there when I joined the Den I really got off on the wrong foot. But glad I am here!

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  6. Debbie Kane on

    Wow, Carol, congratulations! I’ve been following you for years (maybe since 2010? Can’t remember). The Den has offered by far the most valuable workshops and support for me during my freelance writing career. Good for you for pulling back to focus on you! I’ve often wondered how you were pulling it all off. Hope to continue to read your wisdom here and elsewhere.

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  7. Mary Bast on

    Carol, I’m so, so, SO happy for you. You are showing the most courage possible by taking a step back, streamlining your time and energy, and doing what you love. I’m glad you’re going where your heart is asking you to, and being true to yourself and your needs. Sometimes the most loving thing you can do is to let go, and that’s what you’re doing in a way that allows you to engage with your “fourth child” with the most love possible moving forward.

    Thank you so much for all your resources, posts, time, effort, and your generous heart. I hope you get to travel the crap out of the world and spend all the time with your kids and husband and at the synagogue that you can and that your heart desires. Go write and live, lovely! 🦋

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    • Carol Tice on

      Thanks Mary! If only that synagogue would be OPEN… maybe soon.

      I didn’t think of it following through the kid analogy all the way. But now that my teens don’t live here, I DO have a better relationship with them. That’s part of my hope, that I’ll really be MORE useful to Denizens with more downtime, more time writing for clients out in the marketplace. I’ve been like running on a gerbil wheel for a decade. I’ve got to have better insights once I get off and have a chance to look around, right?

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  8. Simone Abrahamsohn on

    Way to go, Carol. You need to do what is right for you and it sounds like an excellent plan. I’ve been an admirer of yours for years, and have learned so much from your blog posts, and info in the Den.
    I wish you the best in this new phase!! Not goodbye, but see you around!

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  9. David J Northrop on

    Thank you, Carol!
    You are very encouraging!
    I hope and pray that you find that perfect retirement spot and continue to do what you love!

    I’m only 59 and this last year was not a COVID year for me. Doctor’s discovered cancer in my intestines and contributing issues in my teeth. Intestinal tumor, asking with all my teeth have been removed.

    Your articles have been encouraging. When I’m financially able, I’ll be signing up for your Writers Den.

    Thank you for being persistent. Thank you for remembering all of us.

    Blessings to you greatly!
    David

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    • Carol Tice on

      David, I’m so sorry to hear what you faced, and DURING Covid! You’re not the only one I know that had a major health challenge on top of it all. So hard!

      Hope the posts on here can help you — maybe writing takes your mind off it all.

      Wishing you hope and healing —

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  10. Irene on

    I stumbled upon this blog in 2020, and immediately had such great connection with you Carol. I know this is not a goodbye, but why do I still feel so emotional? I can’t help it …

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  11. Anne Kruse on

    Dear Carol,
    The toll taken on all of us by this last year+ is manifesting in so many different ways. Our acts to create balance are innate survival mechanisms. We are all traveling on uncharted ground collectively and individually. Your choice to rest and renew is a wise one that will serve you well. It is courageous to make the changes you made, which may end up being the biggest achievement of your life. For what it’s worth, “Finding Life Again in an RV” may inspire a new blog. Cheers to you and your family. Enjoy!

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    • Carol Tice on

      Thanks! Since my husband is a professional photographer, believe me we’ve talked about whether this is our chance to finally do something TOGETHER. I think there are a lot of RV life blogs out there already, don’t know if I’d start one unless I find a fresh angle and feel like I have info that isn’t out there. Mostly, I’m LOVING not being at the helm of an online biz, able to just write for my clients and do the things I enjoy here at the blog and in the Den.

      And no question, Covid gave us all a new perspectve on how short our lives COULD be… and to do what we love, and enjoy our time.

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  12. Diane Faulkner on

    I’m thrilled, thrilled, thrilled for you, Carol. You and your family, both. You deserve to step back and just do only what you love. Glad you won’t be disappearing…I may need you again as a source for a future article..

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  13. Tanya Scherschel on

    Congrats, Carol! As my husband would say, “You’ve won the race!”

    In addition to the many reasons I’m glad I stumbled onto your site, I’d like to thank you for one in particular. Thank you for starting many (all?) of your video tutorials with “Hello, writers.” That was very affirming for me.

    Congrats again, and best of luck finding that perfect retirement spot!

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    • Carol Tice on

      Haha, I get that from Colbert. On his old show he used to say, “Nation… ” as his form of address. I used to talk about ‘people struggle with this and that,’ and switching to writers was definitely big. Hello, that’s who I’m talking to!

      I should think of it that way – that I won a race. Mission accomplished. I wanted to help thousands of writers avoid scams and quit their jobs, and I did. It’s so weird to not feel I have to get up and breathlessly run-run-run through my day… but I’m starting to get used to it. Really liking having 2-day weekends. Been a looong time, for that.

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  14. Bonnie Nicholls on

    Wow, this is BIG news! I’ve followed you since I started freelancing back in 2013 (at the age of 51) or so. I’ve been through Den 2X, taken multiple courses, and relied on your advice many times. I called it the Carol Tice School of Business. Sometimes, when making a decision, I’d ask myself, What would Carol Tice do? Now I go to the Slack channel to get the answer from you and all the people who have gone through your training. I, too, have assessed what’s important to me during COVID times. I’m 59. My husband is retired. I haven’t wanted to work full-time in several years, and I embrace my semi-retired status. I work on projects I like, support people I like, and am compensated well for the work I do. I also take longer vacations and spend a lot of time playing music. Anyway, I’m super happy for you. I was always amazed that you could do it all. But all good things must eventually come to an end.

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  15. Allen Taylor on

    Carol, I’m excited for you. I noticed on the Self-publishingschool.com website a days ago that Make a Living Writing, FWD, the Book Designer, and The Write Life were all a part of the SPS family. Boy, I had no idea! I hadn’t seen any official announcements. Now I have.

    I wish you all the best. I hope you have a bright future in your retirement and enjoy a little of life. All work and no play ….

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  16. Jackie Nash on

    Good luck, enjoy, carpe diem. I’d be lying if I didn’t admit I’m disappointed. I’m a newbie and was looking forward to starting a new career under your guidance. But I get it – to everything there is a season…
    Happy, healthy travels.

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  17. Jim McCarthy on

    Glad to see you taking some time out, Carol. We were looking for a place to retire, too, after 50 years of living in New York City, San Francisco, Kansas City, Buffalo, Dayton, Toledo and a few other places, we settled in the Ozarks 14 years ago, and have found it to be the best place of all! I’ve also been looking at Chandler Bolt’s stuff, too – you probably made a good choice. BTW, did you ever get your dad to do anything about starting his memoir? That’s one I want to read! 🙂

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  18. Colleen Diamond on

    Wow! Congratulations, Carol! I think Covid expedited getting a lot of us in the “reassessing our lives” seat. You have been a tremendous inspiration and resource for so many — certainly for me! — these past few years. Here’s to new beginnings! 🙂

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  19. Oscar Halpert on

    Congratulations, Carol. You have given so much of yourself over the years – since way before The Den. It’s been a long mitzvah. Thank you for everything you’ve done to empower writers.

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  20. Marygwyn Horneck on

    Congratulations on your new partnership. I wish you the absolute best of luck and life as you embrace the changes you’ve set in motion. I’m most grateful for the information and expertise you’ve shared over the years. May the kindness you’ve shown come back to you tenfold.

    Questions:
    *Will those of us who purchased programs, bootcamps, etc. still be able to download the related files whenever we wish as has always been allowed?

    *Will our Den membership pricing and/or accepted forms of payment change?

    Thank you,
    Marygwyn

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    • Carol Tice on

      Good questions — the short story is: Nothing’s changing. This all actually happened 6 months ago, and I’m sure your access to anything hasn’t changed — and if you ever have trouble, just email help@freelancewritersden.com and they’ll get you back in.

      Den membership has already become $40 a momth for incoming members, after the last main Den open in July. A waaay overdue change given the huge archive and bigger community we have become, after 10 years of creating training and growing from about 900-1500 members in recent years. All you gotta do is stay a member, and your membership rate remains the same!

      If anything, we will add additional payment options — we’ve been working on Applepay/Googlepay, for instance. Credit cards and paypal aren’t going anywhere.

      This is about bringing you MORE, not less. We now have more resources, a bigger team to work with, and we can deliver more value, both to readers here on the blog and inside the Den.

      P.S. Stay tuned for a helluva bootcamp coming right up — we’ll be able to tell you about it in just a few weeks.

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  21. Geri Spieler on

    Congrats Carol. You built an empire and helped thousands along the way.

    I have one question, though. As Chandlers company is self publishing, isn’t his focus more on books than freelance writing?

    It appears the focus is going more towards that world as an addition to your freelance writing focus.

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    • Carol Tice on

      Well…a sort of teeny-tiny empire.

      Chandler has acquired many sites that serve freelance writers, and they’re all going to keep doing what they’re doing, and be places writers can learn about the OTHER sites, too. Most freelance writers I know also have a book in them, and vice versa, a lot of first-time authors need to freelance while they wait to become the next J.K. Rowling. So we think there’s a lot of good crossover help for writers, between all the sites.

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  22. Debbie on

    I strongly disagree with the opinion that online businesses are for the young. Online businesses are for those who are willing to keep up with technology & show up. I personally know so many older people thriving in their online businesses. I believe it’s about being willing to change with the times. My aunt in her 70s refuse to learn how to use a cellphone, but her sister is an iPhone expert.

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    • Carol Tice on

      Hi Debbie —

      Maybe it’s for older people who haven’t been through as much as I have in my personal life. It’s not the years, but the mileage, for me.

      Honestly, on the business side, I just had to admit I wasn’t that great at it. It was sort of ‘more than a hobby, less than a business.’ I could never quite delegate enough to have a LIFE. And home stresses were off the charts. At the depths of Covid winter, I was basically living in my basement and not feeling like I could cope with talking to ANY family members. At all. It wasn’t a way to live.

      I just sort of ran out of gas. I feel O L D and tired. Hopeful that now that Chandler’s crew has the day-to-day, my brain can recharge. And I’m still involved here, so I can keep sharing useful info, coming up with courses people need in the Den… I think I’ll be more useful.

      Maybe there are older vloggers out there who love how they look…but that’s not me, I’ll say. I’m ready to NOT look at myself on Zoom so much!

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      • Cam on

        Hi Carol,
        I get the OLD feeling and being tired of doing the same thing! I liked how personal your groups were and I felt like there was a real person behind it all, plus I liked Angie and your group of peeps! They were always so nice and made you feel like you really could break into freelance writing. All these slick websites are nice to look at and may offer a different twist on content but I’ve grown a bit skeptical of many of them. I hope you find what you are looking for as you take time for yourself!

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      • Debbie on

        I do understand. I think this pandemic has made many of of reassess our lives. I know I have. After freelancing, I think I would love to ghostwrite from a cabin overlooking the snow-capped mountains somewhere. It’s comforting to know that you will still be around in some capacity.

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  23. Denise C Richardson on

    Carol, Congratulations on this accomplishment, and good luck in the next phase! Thanks for sharing, caring, inspiring and providing great resources. Denise

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    • Carol Tice on

      You’re welcome, Denise! It’s been an incredible journey for 12 years, and I’m already loving how this partnership is working out. Stay tuned for even more value than ever from my sites. Now that I’m out of the day-to-day, it’s like my brain is turning back on. I think we’re going to have a lot of fun new stuff going on.

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    • Carol Tice on

      Thanks, Nina! Though I really feel like freelance writers are going to be the big winners here. Chandler and his team have resources I could only dream about… I’m excited to see how much more value we can provide, and how many more writers we can help.

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  24. Laurence on

    Hi Carol,

    Thank you for sharing this story. I really didn’t know who Chandler Bolt was and how he fit into this picture. Having subscribed and unsubscribed several times, I’m now going to stay subscribed and see how I can benefit from the new partnership.

    I want to wish you all the best as you take your foot off the pedal and enjoy life more and more (COVID-permitting).

    Regards,
    Laurence

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    • Carol Tice on

      We’re traveling in an RV and staying out of indoor places, Laurence! Thanks for the good wishes — and yeah, I’d stay subscribed because I think Chandler will be totally leveling-up my sites. 😉

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  25. Mary on

    Carol, congratulations on your new phase and recognizing it when it appeared! I have found MALW and the Den enormously helpful. Thank you!

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    • Carol Tice on

      Thanks Mary — I’d love to hear details about what was a lightbulb moment for you on my sites. Can never document enough wins, so new visitors understand what we have for them!

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  26. Julie on

    Congratulations for this new phase, Carol! I feel lucky to have been a reader for quite a while and to have know the Den and MALW while you were at the driver’s seat 🙂 Thanks for all you’ve been bringing this community!

    I will be looking for your posts and hope you’ll have tons of fun living the good life, and ghostwriting too!

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    • Carol Tice on

      Thanks, Julie! I think the more I work hands-on with clients and pitch for work, the more fresh insights I’ll have to help everyone. Loving it all so far, and I think Chandler’s team will be able to deliver so much more value to writers who read this blog.

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